Telstra faces structural separation, loss of Foxtel & HFC ne

Re: Telstra faces structural separation, loss of Foxtel & HFC ne

Postby 2012 » Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:31 pm

They were probably always going to ditch Telstra, the plan was for the government to sell the lot. They ditched the max, they are not allowed to ditch the rest until early next year. They hinted they won't dump the rest, but they will I bet.

What if the government said to BHP, "you can't have anymore iron mining leases until you give us your oil fields, oh and buy the way sell your copper mines to someone else, thanks". So you think the media would say "aaa g that's great for the consumer" or "OMG the government is corrupt"

It is a mistake for the government to refuse to sell something to one party (wireless bandwidth). It is against the law to refuse to sell something to someone you have for sale if they offer legal tender and are legally allowed to buy it. The government is setting a very bad precedent that they are allowed to refuse the sale of something to private industry in the form of a threat.

It is Optus's own fault that they choose technically bad section of the bandwidth to use. Punishing Telstra for this is poor. They won, it is a free market, let them win.

The real truth is quite scary.The NBN is a complete waste of Money as wireless is eight years ahead already and the backbone is cheaper. NBN is being done so the government can inject money into the economy, but the amount of money is ridiculously huge and will cause all sorts of corruption. I mean the newspapers and media that are promoting the Telstra breakup as a good thing are run by people who want a slice of the 43 billion, they also want a broken Telstra to buy failed pieces of their media empires no doubt, and Conroy is pandering to them. Conroy, during the debate on TV used words I posted on this website from a post I made on the NBN regarding Moore's Law and words from when I stuck up for him on filtering, but both out of context. Make of that what you will.
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Re: Telstra faces structural separation, loss of Foxtel & HFC ne

Postby btone » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:49 pm

mdsmedia wrote:The NBN is a complete waste of Money as wireless is eight years ahead already and the backbone is cheaper.


When oh when will we stop hearing this crock about the advanced state of wireless internet services. Wireless will NOT supercede fibre, fixed line and adsl until it finds a solution to its inherent weakness. the more users the weaker the service.

mdsmedia wrote:I stuck up for him on filtering


Say no more, 2012 = Sydney Lawrence = ACL = Webspace = ACMA = fail, fail, and more fail...

Party's over, exit stage left.

Now the real battle continues, the one of true moral compass...against the tyranny of the filter. Lose that, NBN, wireless, Helstra et al don't mean a flying fig.
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Re: Telstra faces structural separation, loss of Foxtel & HFC ne

Postby mdsmedia » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:31 pm

btone wrote:
mdsmedia wrote:The NBN is a complete waste of Money as wireless is eight years ahead already and the backbone is cheaper.


When oh when will we stop hearing this crock about the advanced state of wireless internet services. Wireless will NOT supercede fibre, fixed line and adsl until it finds a solution to its inherent weakness. the more users the weaker the service.

mdsmedia wrote:I stuck up for him on filtering


Say no more, 2012 = Sydney Lawrence = ACL = Webspace = ACMA = fail, fail, and more fail...

Party's over, exit stage left.

Now the real battle continues, the one of true moral compass...against the tyranny of the filter. Lose that, NBN, wireless, Helstra et al don't mean a flying fig.

Where oh where did you get those quotes FROM ME??
2012 wrote:The real truth is quite scary.The NBN is a complete waste of Money as wireless is eight years ahead already and the backbone is cheaper.

2012 wrote:I posted on this website from a post I made on the NBN regarding Moore's Law and words from when I stuck up for him on filtering, but both out of context. Make of that what you will.

Please, if you're going to quote, quote the right poster.
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Re: Telstra faces structural separation, loss of Foxtel & HFC ne

Postby 2012 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:30 am

Who is Sydney Lawrence? Why use so much hate? Anyway I never claimed Wireless will supersede fiber, just that it is better than the NBN, here already and the solution for most average Australians. What would you rather a mobile internet you can take to work or an old phonebox style connection at home.... I would rather both, but I have no need of fiber at home and it is useless to farmer Joe on his tractor. All I am saying is that if the government actually bothered to ask I bet Optus, Intel, Erickson, Telstra and all the others could spend the money better on a backbone, some upgrades and missing towers as well as other things. Maybe this is the conclusion they are coming to the now anyway.

I don't get what you mean mdsmedia.

I do not have many posts, so it should be easy to find, here... search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&keywords=moore&author=2012
I made reference to Moores Law in relation to Wireless on ITWire and later Conroy made a reference to Moores Law and several other things we said on TV... I thought it was quite freaky actually. At least it means he reads this stuff I suppose.. even if he changes the context to prove another point. I remember at the time I thought my moores wireless comments were a bit dumb because Moores Law relates to transistors, but I let it slide as it was not too off. When I heard Conroy compare a filter to Moores Law I remember though 'OMG I hope I did not set a precedent'. Weird coincidences happen all the time though.

Mostly I am just spouting my opinion, take it or leave it. I am not even sure why I like Telstra, I have never even owned shares, I just think they are getting a raw deal sometimes I suppose. I mean the government needs to occasionally inject extra money into an economy... removing it by selling to the public is why we have so much private debt (not me I hate loans :o). The public don't seem to get that Telstra was a public utility... they already owned it. It was owned by the government because it loses money over long periods of time, it was a mechanism to inject money into society via employment during bad times, so maybe they should buy it back, manage the economy properly and stop pandering.
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Re: Telstra faces structural separation, loss of Foxtel & HFC ne

Postby mdsmedia » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:52 pm

2012 wrote:I don't get what you mean mdsmedia.


If you have a look at the post that I quoted, you'll see that there are quotes attributed to me, when they were actually quoting you, if badly.
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Re: Telstra faces structural separation, loss of Foxtel & HFC ne

Postby 2012 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:20 pm

ah, I see now. It was l8 when I looked at that last night.
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Re: Telstra faces structural separation, loss of Foxtel & HFC ne

Postby 2012 » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:23 am

How convenient...

NEWS Corporation chairman and chief executive Rupert Murdoch says the company could be a player in the Rudd government's auctions of digital spectrum, as the company examines how it will distribute its newspapers and content wirelessly.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busines ... 5795552587
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